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that does it for us. thank you very much for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. america divided, this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. 12 days to go. 12 of them, and one way or another, america will be very different the way after election day. though this race is far from over. >> we should just cancel the election and just give it to trump, right? >> well, that's a joke, folks, of course, but trump's voters definitely won't be laughing if he loses. will they revolt? and will the gop survive? we're going to start with this br breaking news. a close call for mike pence. his plane skidding off the runway in la guardia airport in
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new york, a stormy night with very poor visibility. law enforcement saying the plane quote came in too fast and landed too late. rescue crews getting the passengers off the plane quickly, as quickly as possible. everyone is say, according to a spokeswoman for the campaign. some noticeable damage to the runway if you look there closely, although the campaign tells reporters there's no structural damage to the plane. pence was on his way to a fundraiser here in new york, which has been called off now. he tweeted this tonight, so thankful everyone on the plane is safe. grateful for the first responders and the concern and prayers of so many. back on the trail tomorrow. donald trump saying this at a rally in ohio tonight. >> i just spoke to our future vice president, and he's okay. do you know he was in a big accident with a plane? the plane skidded off the runway and was pretty close to grave
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danger but i spoke to mike pence and he's fine. he got out. everybody's fine. >> the faa says it will investigate that accident. so let's discuss. day in politics, i want to bring in cnn's mark preston and david swe swe swerdlick. >> this is a circumstance where you have these candidates up in the air all the time right now. you know, thankfully everyone's safe. in the past we have lost politicians though in plane accidents. we saw mel carnahan governor the missouri, who died back in 2000, running for the senate. paul wellstone died in 2012. secretary ron brown if you go back to 1996, you remember his plane went down and croatia and there's several more that have happened, but in the end thankfully everyone is safe. >> my point is that was a big of exaggeration. we're glad he was okay but this was a fairly minor accident with
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the plane sliding. >> it skidded off the runway, but it shows you these guys are in the air all the time. >> won't affect the race at all. >> absolutely he'll be back tomorrow. >> donald trump was saying he is winning and am slaimming clinto in the polls let's listen. >> i'm thinking to myself we should just cancel the election and just give it to trump, right? what are we having it for? her policies are so bad. >> he is mugging for the crowd though but a lot of his supporters believe he could be cheated out of a win. >> we just did a poll and asked this specific question, you know, do you have confidence that votes are going to be accounted accurately. the clinton voters, 88% said they thought they would be counted accurately, only 49% of trump voters thought they would be counted accurately it. really goes to show you the divide in the country politically and specifically in this e electilection with these candidates. >> mr. swerdlick, listen to what
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he said on bill o'reilly's show. >> if you look at texas, a lot of calls were made from texas, an incredible place from texas. the lines are massive and they were talking about flipping where they press a button and they press today for me and another name comes up, named crooked hillary clinton. >> do we have any data or facts on that? >> no they call in. >> so david, election officials investigated and said there is nothing wrong with the machines, it's been user error and voters can cast their ballot incorrectly and have been able to vote for trump. but i have a feeling we're going to be hearing a lot of these stories, and it's going to get messy. >> yeah, look. the texas story is worth looking into. there can be user error, there can be machine error, there can be lots of errors but there's no evidence there was rigging involved and in my view, don, there's no evidence that this -- there's some kind of systemic fix in this election. we've talked about this a lot. on that same o'reilly interview,
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donald trump talked about the idea that -- that it's not just that he's talking about voter rigging, but that system is rigged. he blamed it again on the media. the last few days he's been specifying he's making a broader critique about the whole system. the problem is this, one there's no evidence and two, look, we've been at this a year and a half. voters have an enormous amount of information about both donald trump and hillary clinton to allow themselves to make an informed decision in this race. we at the "washington post," cnn, other outlets, do this very diligently every day. reporters are out there every day and the idea that information is being hidden deliberately or the fix is in, it's just not established. >> uuh-huh and that's what the liberal fixed media is. >> do you know what makes sense to his supporters when he has rallies of 12,000 to 15,000 people? what he's saying is the liberal
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media, the republican establishment and everybody else is all against him. you can imagine, like what strange bed fellows if we were in bed with the gop establishment to so-called liberal media. >> wouldn't the conservative media have to be in on it, as well? >> only those who do not support him. >> oh. >> those who like him would not be on it. >> i'm wondering because we've been talking about him staying on message and even members of his own campaign is hoping he sticks to the script on message. i'm wondering if he's hurting himself by bringing up these women, bringing up the sexual assault, and spent the day attacking hillary clinton, and with bill o'reilly he talked about the "access hollywood" tape again. >> i think it was very negative, it was locker room talk. the microphone was not supposed to be on, not that i make that as an excuse for myself, but certainly it was an illegal act that was nbc. it was not supposed to be on. >> you think it was illegal what they did putting that tape out? >> absolutely that was a private
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dressing room. yeah, that was certainly -- >> are you going to take any action against nbc? >> you'll see. you're going to see after the election. >> you know, it was locker room talk and, yeah, i mean we're going to find out soon enough, i will tell you. >> okay. so -- we do this for a living. >> right. >> so you're on a bus, you're getting a set up shot of you two walking off the bus greeting this woman. that's not a private -- that's not private. >> that's certainly not a dressing room. >> that's part of the whole process. >> my understanding is there were other people on the bus, as well. >> so 12 days out until election day and he's bringing up damaging allegations and putting them back into the spotlight, if you his people wouldn't you say just shut up about that, don't talk about it? >> right so five hours ago i was on wolf blitzer and he said can donald trump stay on message? you know he seemed to have stayed on message and seemed to do very well which i agreed, but my response to him was i'm sure
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his advisors are waiting for him to go off message. just a couple hours later it took him to go off message. the fact of the matter when donald trump is attacking hillary clinton with wikileaks and how he's going to make america great again -- >> when he's talking about obamacare. >> when he's talking about obamacare, when he's talking about trade deficits, he does better. when he started talking about the "access hollywood" tape, which he could brush off and get away with not having to address it, that's not good for him. >> david, let's talk about this, because trump has been trying to expand to african-american voters and his appeal. i want you to listen to this clip at donald trump at a rally in ohio tonight talking about the inner city. >> we're going to work on the ghettos. take a look where you have pockets of areas of land where you have the inner cities and you have so many things, so many problems, so many horrible, horrible problems. the violence, the death, the
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lack of education, no jobs. we're going to work with the african-american community and we're going to solve the problem of the inner city. we're going to solve the problem. >> david, why -- why does he continue to do this and why aren't his advisors educating him? could they not know any better, as well? i mean what's going on here? i see three problems, don. who is that to the extent that donald trump is trying to do outreach to african-american voters, it's too little too late. in the new "washington post" poll, hillary clinton is plus 81 among black voters. you know, he's just not going to catch up in this regard a week and a half out. another problem is the language he uses. people are going to come after me on twitter and say this is being politically correct, but look, a part of being able to talk to a slice of the electorate is being able to sort of speak their language at least
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a little bit. people don't use the word ghetto, or the word "negro." it's about being polite and understanding where the discussion has gone and it's the on policy, right? he gave a speech yesterday where he talked about his new deal for black america, which i don't think fully resonates with the black electorate, but was an earnest attempt but wound up stepping on that message and not being able to drive that home. as mark said he has a tough time staying on message, in terms of his advisors, i couldn't hazard a guess, don, this is a broader problem for republicans at large, not just for donald trump. >> the ghettos was just something else. when we come back, the candidate causing trouble for donald trump tonight and it's not hillary clinton.
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utah is a traditionally red state and donald trump should have it safely in his camp, but he doesn't, and as of today, cnn considers utah a battleground partly because trump is struggling with mormon voters and because of evan mcmullin, the independent candidate who is from utah and there he is. he joins me. good evening, how you doing, evan? >> great to be with you, don,
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i'm doing well, thanks. the latest montmouth poll, you come in closely at 28%. why are you doing so well there? >> most of the other polls have us in a deadlocked tie or have us up by four points or so even above donald trump. so we're excited about what's happening here. we came here and are spending time in utah and in the mountain west, because these are the states that rejected hillary clinton and donald trump. these are the people who are looking for a better choice in this election and so this is where we're spending a lot of time now as we get closer to november 8th. >> you said -- you said to me you're a modest campaign with a modest goal, so when you look at this map, when you look at the 270 that you have to get, even if you get utah, evan, i mean you're only going to have six electoral votes. that's not a path to the presidency. what is your end game? >> actually, that's not absolutely true. if the race is close between donald trump and hillary
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clinton, and we win one or two or three states in the mountain west, then that means we can block them both and take the election to the house of representatives where we like our chances. now the truth is, hillary clinton is dominating donald trump in most projections by such a large margin, that the race isn't close right now, but you know anything can happen in this kind of race in the next ten days and we'll see how it develops, but we're going to be ready to block them both if the rice race is tight. regardless we're building a new conservative movement open to all kinds of people regardless of race or religion. we believe it's important to stand for equality and to stand for the cause of liberty. we don't see either donald trump or hillary clinton doing that in the way we think it needs to be done or at all and so we're standing for that and building something new, which we think is absolutely necessary to pro vvi the kind of leadership this country needs. >> so you want to block both of them and you take it to the house of representatives. i'm wondering do you agree with
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donald trump, do you think it is a rigged system or do you think changes need to be made to the system? >> i don't think it's a rigged system. if there's any rigging of the system at all, it's been done by vladimir putin, hacking our computer systems and using other means to influence and undermine the u.s. elect process. no, but otherwise i don't agree it's rigged. i think i would like to see the system, the process opened up a bit. i think given that we have, from the major parties both hillary clinton and donald trump, two candidates who are so hugely unpopular and i believe unfit for the responsibilities they seek. i do think we need new voices in the election processes but i don't think that means the process is rigged. >> okay. i want you to listen to mike pence rallying voters in utah. here here is. >> this is our chance to make a difference. i mean, the truth of the matter is, there's only two names on
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that battom that hallot that ha to be president of the united states of america, and while i'll always respect the right of any man or woman to cast their vote in the manner they seem best, i've got to say to you from my heart, i truly do about a vote for any candidate other than donald trump is a vote for a weaker america at home and abroad. >> that's him wednesday in your territory in salt lake city. what's your reaction? >> well, i would say this is exactly what they want us to believe. both parties want us to believe that we have to choose either donald trump or hillary clinton. the truth is, americans don't want either one of them. we want better choices in this country. we need better leaders. we need wise and honest leaders who will put the interest of americans first. if we keep choosing hillary clinton or donald trump, we're going to keep getting hillary clinton or donald trump. we're standing for something new. it's time for a new generation of leadership in this country
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and a new conservative movement that will be open to all races and religions and unify this country and take it to a much brighter future than think we'll have with either hillary clinton or donald trump. we've got to start building that now in this election, not after november 8th when it -- others will have failed to stand up for what's good and true. we know that we need to do this now and so that's what we're doing. >> okay. so i want to read -- this is a tweet, lou dobbs, fired off an angry tweet, look deeper, he's nothing but a globalist, rom ne, and mormon mafia tool. >> i would love to hear him describe what the mormon mafia is. it is a sort of silly thing. we've been having a lot of fun. a lot of people across country have been having fun. in a way it's not surprising. donald trump and his supporters have been attacking people based on race and religion and gender and the reality is this
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country's for everyone. in country is fthis country is people, with religions or no religions at all, with skin like mine or different, and we cannot have a president or movement in this country and we cannot tolerate it if they're going to attack us based on who we are. we believe all men and women are created equal and mindy fin and i, my running mate are standing for that. >> i have to ask you, he said he could no longer support donald trump. you say donald trump is losing badly, but utah congressman jas jason chaffetz rescinded his tweet saying i will not defend or endorse trump but i'm voting for him. hrc is that bad. hrc is bad for the usa. even though he told me on the day the tape came out he couldn't look his 15-year-old daughter in the eye and continue to endorse him after what he
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heard and saw on the tape, what do you make of that reversal? >> well, don, i'm just deeply disappointed by that. you know, eventually, our leaders have to start standing on principle. they have to start standing on principle at the very least when we're being attacked. when americans are being attacked our leaders need to stand up, especially when women have been attacked in this election cycle by donald trump, as consistently as they have been. and by the way, that tape, that was nothing new, the trump tape. he's been attacking people through the election based on gender, race, religion f. o. if our leaders will not stand up to that or us what business do they have leading us, that's my question. >> evan mcmullin, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, don. up next could there be violence in the streets if donald trump loses the election to clinton? ominous warning signs tonight. the microsoft cloud helps us stay connected.
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that's not true so let's discuss. ari fleisher, white house press secretary for george w. bush and kevin madden, republican strategist. i'm glad to have you both on gentlemen. >> good evening. >> you first, kevin. the new york times is warning of a r a revolution. when you pair that with a tweet, joe walsh calling for folks to grab their muskets and you have the wisconsin sheriff saying it's pitch fork time and what else? something i forget what else. >> right. >> and torches. this is serious, right? >> in this election, where the rhetoric gets pretty heated, and people are trying to drive a lot of enthusiasm among supporters, and they're trying to make a case about the stakes of this
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election, and sometimes that can go over board when you talk about grabbing mus kents akets things like that. when you listen to secretaries of state and the vast manorijor of e vectlected officials they a great deal of confidence about the integrity of our election and have made it clear to those participating in this election. so i take my queue from a lot of those leaders and i feel pretty confident that america will once again in this election, test its democracy on election day. >> i wonder, if you've heard anything like this before from the "new york times"? they spoke to many trump supporters here and one of them is saying, jared wholebrooke of wisconsin is saying if donald trump lost through donald truhi clinton, it could lead to another revolutionary war. he works at a call center.
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they're going to need to do whatever to get her out of office because she does not belong there. if push comes to shove and mrs. clinton has to go by any means necessary, it will be done. >> the i don't like this rhetoric. i don't like when al gore was objected to, and there were several members elected into the united states congress. i'm too young to remember the election of 1,800. >> come on, ari, really? >> just a little bit. but back then they said you couldn't walk across the street without gfear of getting kaine . i also denounce the republican violence that took place that got fire bombed this week, there was vandalism on trump's star on the sidewalk and a couple years
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ago there was an attempted murder in the family research center in washington, d.c. that was politically motivated. so i demore the violenplore the the rhetoric. >> here's the thing, ari. we'll get on television and argue in political ways but that doesn't mean we don't like each other. >> that's right. >> and i see you -- and we talk or disagree or maybe have a beer. people at home it is much more serious than that. i'm wondering if you're worrying about the scrkewing. some of those in right-wing media said trump was winning and ahead in the polls and the only way he can lose is by rigging. i'm wondering if the conservative media is doing an injustice by skewing the reality? will be so disappointed if he does lose. >> they are. and left-wing was doing the same in 2000 with al gore. it's wrong and you have to be on
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the look out is what does whoever loses and i think that's donald trump, what does he say. if donald trump stirs the pot, it's a very dangerous thing to do. if the race is extraordinarily close, you better believe both sides are going to lawyer up and we'll be right back to where we were in 2000 where people are fighting for every last second and vote. but if it's a lopsided victory you need to accept it in this country. >> kevin, what do you say about that? >> first of all i agree with ari's main point, which is extremism and rhetoric that goes be kroyond the pail is not bei n manopolized on the left or the right. >> what's happening now is before the election has even happened -- and i'll go with his -- with the premise saying that it happened with left-wing media -- so-called left-wing media after the fact there was a contested election but go on. >> what about the violence in
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north carolina to a republican party? >> it's not -- it's not just situational, don. it's systemic on both the right and the left. i think where i agree with you is that what i would worry about donald trump's current rhetoric right now is he's doing what i think many enemies around the globe want to see which is tripptri trivializing democracy. i do believe it is incumbent upon those secretaries of state, whether republicans or democrats, and leaders in washington or around the country, who are republicans and democrats, to make the case about the integrity of our democracy and how important our position is and peaceful transition of power is a very important shining part of our -- our sd democratic traditions and that's why it's incumbent upon leaders they point it out and disagree with it.
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>> i just articulated my point better than i did because you're much smarter. >> impossible. >> i want to play something from the first lady and hillary clinton campaigning down in north carolina today and they're putting the role of women front and center in this election. watch this. >> i wish i didn't have to say this right? but indeed, dignity and respect for women and girls is also on the ballot in this election. >> as hillary said we want a president who values and honors women, who teaches our daughters and our sons that women are full and equal human beings worthy, deserving of love and respect. >> ari, are they right? is respect for women and girls on the ballot? >> you know, i try to elevate the debate above that type of
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slicing of the american people into such terms, you know, of course it was the clinton campaign, the clinton foundation who doesn't pay women equal to their men and i find every election cycle you see these issues thrown at republicans. they said george bush was racist, and mitt romney is racist. it's the same rhetoric that's taken out against republicans every psyche and he will i think that's one of the reasons we're just a divided country. it's a tactic democrats make every race including when al gore said -- and this isn't about women but when al gore said republicans wanted to recreate slavery, put y'all back in chains. this is the divisiveness of the democrats -- >> i've got to push back. you hear so much about donald trump that is just there and if i could just fire up the tapes -- >> i disagree with that. >> you don't think it's different this time with donald trumpa
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trumpacy -- donald trump's rhetoric? >> that doesn't make it right, and that's why he's in so much trouble. he made fun of rand paul's looks on stage. donald trump does that and is kind of a throw back to way men were in the '50s and '60s. if he didn't act like this, he might have had a chance to win this race. i've criticized it when he does it, but i think it's a different issue. he reacts to everyone. >> he reacts to everyone. does it meanise a he's all of t things on the spectrum of his reaction? >> he's offensive and boarish to just about everyone he crosses and that's a big problem. >> kevin? >> we went to one of the trump cards with a small t, no pun intended democrats thought they
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had with republicans, is this war on women. ari and many others believe that was an unfair characterization of republican policies. but what we did was, by nominating donald trump, we walked right into that trap again, because donald trump has, you know, in many ways personified the worst of republican policy making it when comes to women and just his personal behavior. we brought this on ourselves and that's why it's incumbent upon our colleagues, a mamanda carper reported republican men need to make a stronger case for why donald trump is wrong. we can't let things like sexual assault become a partisan issue that. should be a bipartisan issue where republicans and democrats come together to fight it and that was i think one of the big losses that we had in this particular election. >> and that's why you have people like jason chaffetz, congressman. he doesn't know what to do. he keeps going back and forth on the particular issue of whether he should support donald trump or not support donald trump for the very reasons that you guys
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were talking about. i enjoyed this conversation. thank you so sglch great to muc >> great to be with you. wait until you hear what michelle obama has to say about donald trump's claims on the election is rigged. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. you found the perfect car foi'm a robot!
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here's one thing that we know, michelle obama's approval rating is soaring, so who better to campaign with hillary clinton than michelle obama, the first lady. here to discuss, kayleigh mcen 18y, a trump sporty, and vuppor jones, jack kingston, senior advisor, and hilary rosen, a clinton supporter. we can all agree -- everybody -- that we can't wait for november 9th. am i correct? >> yes. >> victory. >> amen. >> assuming it will be over. >> that's right. kayleigh, i want to start with you. the first lady was out on the trail with hillary clinton today, listen. >> so when you hear folks talking about a global conspiracy, and saying that this election is rigged, understand that they are trying to get you to stay home. they are trying to convince you
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that your vote doesn't matter, that the outcome has already been determined and you shouldn't even bother making your voice heard. they are trying to take away your hope, and just forwar the record, in this country, the united states of america, the vo voters decide our elections. voters decide who wins and who loses, period, end of story. >> kayleigh, is that what's behind this rigging theme from the trump campaign, trying to suppress the vote and. >> no, i think it's just to have people be vigilant and be on the lookout and make sure nothing is happening and that directly contradicts what president obama said in 2008 on the campaign trail when he said republicans have monkeys around with elections, democrats have, people in power tend to tilt things their way so that's very different coming from michelle obama than what we heard eight years ago. >> that's very different than saying the whole system is rigged. there are irregularities
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everywhere. >> absolutely. first of all, i just think it's -- it bears pointing out that michelle obama has become probably the most effective communicator on planet earth right now. >> probably? >> i think she is. i think she's a more effective communicator, not just than hillary clinton. bill clinton, barack obama, or anybody else. and that's not her job. she's not a candidate. >> but isn't that why these most effective is because that is not her job? >> i'm going to tell you what. you speak for a living, i speak for a living. she does thing when is she talks that are so remarkable, in the intimacy n their fe intimacy, in their feel. it's like the first time you heard david bowie or prince. i didn't even know you could do that with a microphone. >> i really don't get -- i don't feel that way, and i want to say this. you know, if you're a democrat, i understand you love her. i'm a republican and i have to say, i certainly admire her. i think she's been a great first
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lady, but i don't consider her a thought leader. i don't think she's going to be able to prop up hillary clinton. this was probably one of their largest rallies. they may have topped 15,000 people. they let the kids out of school i guess. i don't know. but the reality is, donald trump has that kind of crowd anywhere he has a rally, and he could do it at 9:00 at an airplane hangar, he can do it on a parking lot on a saturday afternoon. he's used to getting those people, but they come out to see him. i think the crowd today was coming out to see michelle obama, as much as anything, and those votes don't transfer. in fact -- >> you're missing a key thing though. >> go ahead, hillary. please set this man straight. >> all yours. >> twofold. the fact that michelle obama is not a politician does make her extra credible in the same vein as other nonpoliticians. she laid hands on hillary clinton today, called her my girl, like you -- you know, that says everything, particularly to
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young women because michelle obama speaks, which was now almost, you know, a week and a half ago, on sexual assault, after those tapes, woke up young women to all the sudden say, oh, i guess it why it matters a woman's president. there is no question we've seen it overwhelming amount of enthusiasm now for young women, for hillary clinton, on these issues that michelle obama translated for america. she created an energy around these issues. >> and let me add -- >> and she did it for all of america. to say that it didn't translate at all, that people aren't paying attention is just wrong. >> her last name is still obama and she was in north carolina where obamacare is going up 40%. >> obama, the most popular current president of the last several years. >> it doesn't matter to these young people whose healthcare is going up 40% if they live in
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north carolina. if they live in arizona -- >> congressman, i think you're missing a point talking about her effectiveness as a speaker. and you may be right about obamacare and the premiums, but just her as an effective great speaker. and we have great affinity for all of our first ladies. i don't think there's first lady people have hated. i can't remember at least in my lifetime, people loved laura and barbara bush and nancy reagan. why can't people love michelle obama? >> she's very effective. she give the best speech in the dnc hands down f. s. if she wants to run for something, she's very good at it on the campaign trail. i get you, don, 100%. i don't know love for the first lady is what they are going to vote on when they're hurting economically, when they're scared about terrorism, whether they're casting their ballot, i don't know if love for the first lady is going to be the benefact benefactor. >> i will tell you young people, especially millennial, the highest approval rating with any
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politician would be michelle and b barack obama among that demographic. >> first of all you say these not a thought leader, i think that's highly -- i'm not going to say it's offensive, it's just wrong. she's actually changed the national conversation when it comes to children's fitness, children's health, when it comes to the most important things in our country, our future generation, and also our veterans, she's been right out there as big as anybody. but much more importantly, if you try to put her down, you're by yourself. donald trump, who slaps back at every single person who ever says anything bad about him, even if it's a gold star mom, if it's some unknown beauty pageant, he's up -- you can't mess with donald trump. >> but michelle obama has gone out -- >> you had your turn. you had your turn. michelle obama has gone after him speech, after speech, after speech, and donald trump has not broken breath to say one word,
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one tweet, nothing because he recognizes the power that he has. >> congressman quickly i have to go to break. >> number one she's trying to prop up hillary clinton, who brings no enthusiasm. that's why the crowd was big today, because of michelle obama. >> big crowds don't mean big votes, and bernie. >> let him finish. >> and michelle obama can go out there and say all those good things about hillary clinton, but it's still hillary clinton, and people are not enthusiastic about that. that's why she can't get a big crowd. >> here's the thing -- okay. >> and beyond -- >> quickly i gotta. >> -- behind the cheering you have obamacare, you have a weak economy, you don't have hope or jobs for these young people who need jobs who are going out in the workplace. they're very uneasy about the economy. they're very uneasy about national security. >> all the people you mention audio. >> you can try and make this case. young people are for hillary clinton. >> people of color who live in certain neighborhoods, michelle obama is effective at speaking
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to them. i wonder if donald trump was as effective and we'll talk about that after the break. abdominal pain?
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today. >> we're going to work on our ghettos so you take a look at what's going on, where you have pockets of areas of land, where you have so many problems, so many horrible, horrible problems. >> so who -- is that effective? kayleigh? >> yes, i do. i think so. i think he gave one of the best speeches we've ever heard yesterday, in charlotte about urban renewal. very ground-breaking policies like microloans and tax credits to companies who will go to certain inner cities. it's revolutionary what they did. >> and ghettos. does anybody on this panel use that besides a curtis mayfield song. >> mary aeriem webster uses tha
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>> and let me get a sentence in before you go. i want to point something out. somebody used the tomorrow "ghetto "in th "ghetto" in this campaign and it was bernie sanders and he caught beef, too. for a certain generation of people who are in that high 60s, 70s that term my land with them differently. what i would suggest to anybody else though, the term is if you want to go there, is hood. you're not going to get mad for talking about the hood, but you start talking about some ghettos, your going to get it. >> let's do what kayleigh was talking, talking about the substance of jobs, opportunities, education, safety. look at downtown chicago. it's been pointed to many, many times about the number of murders this year. 500. frankly, a republican to talk about these issues is a very good thing, not just for people who live in cities, but for
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america. i think it's very important for both parties to be talking to non-traditional constituents. i'm glad he's doing it. >> you've got to look at the messenger here. you're right if a republican was out there with credibility talks about urban renewal and investing in the urban communities, that would be awesome. we're talking about a guy getting sued by the justice department for not letting african-americans into his buildings, the king of condo conversions. >> that's not true. >> this guy has not only no credibility on this issue -- >> that case was dropped. >> i'm talking jack -- not only no credibility on this issue but a bad history that helps make situations worse. >> hilary -- >> you can't just be throwing out words -- >> hilary, you started -- >> -- to think you're a nice person. >> you started your statement saying you wish had you someone
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wanting policies for inner cities. it's donald trump. this is so frustrating you start talking about policy and you pivot into the dirty mud-slinging issues instead of talking about things that'll help people in the inner cities. >> my point is he can't deliver and the people in the communities are not listening to him. >> he's a jobs creator. >> because she actually has a record on these things and she actually has engaged on these issues. you can't just throw out the campaign rhetoric and be believed. >> when hillary was on martha's vineyard, donald trump went to milwaukee and what did the left say? he didn't go in the city limits. he's still addressing the issues. you know, you -- he is a guy whose created jobs and if he had a history of discrimination, the "new york times" and the "washington post" would make sure everybody in america knew about it, but he does not. >> and they have. it's my turn. >> they did. let me say a couple things about poverty. you have democrats that have not
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been good enough on urban poverty. you have republicans who have let rural folks down and if you want a conversation about poverty, i welcome that. i want paul ryan, in the tradition, trying to insult his way into communities he seems to know very little about. more and more questions about the clinton foundation. is it all coming back to haunt hillary clinton's campaign? support prop 51.
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if you think america is divided now, just wait until november 9th. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. it's not over yet, but what if hillary clinton wins? will congressional republicans follow through on their promise of endless investigations? will they block her supreme court nominations for so long we end up with fewer justices, and with questions about the clinton foundation hamstring her administration from day one? donald trump certainly seems to think so. >> if the clintons were willing to play this fast and willingness with their b enterp, imagine what they'll do once again to control the oval office. >> all right. let's get right to it. cnn's mark preston and david swerdlick are both here. a bit o


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